Showing posts with label Bike Geometry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bike Geometry. Show all posts

Monday, January 21, 2008

Chain Stay

The chain stay is often the most overlooked component of the frame. Possibly due to the fact that its tuck away under your tush and generally has more interesting components of the drive train packed around it. For this exact reason I thought of checking out what type of performance issues the chain stay affects. Here are a few quotes from various websites with the statements regarding the chain stay and how it affects performance.

"Venus C7 ovalized tubes and box chainstays for lightning-fast acceleration, razor-sharp handling and ultra-low weight"

"combined with the 17in chainstays made for quick acceleration and stable handling at speed"

"Short 15.75in chainstays keep acceleration ultra snappy"

"short, stiff chainstays improve acceleration and tuck the rear wheel beneath you for optimum climbing traction"

So how does the length actually effect the control you have and why is acceleration increased by shortening the chain stay. It does seem though that things like weight of the bike and even tire selection would be greater factors as to why you can accelerate faster than a shorter chain stay?? Even the fork can effect how fast you could pull away or get back up to speed after a tight corner but these statements are found time after time.

Well there are two obvious features that could help in terms of weight savings thus less mass to try to get going. The shorter chain stay has less material and so does the chain because you have shortened the length needed. These seem like two small changes but seem to me about the same as shaving off the extra length of your fork tube or changing pedals. To see benefits of weight savings the best places to start are the areas of rotational mass, so it could help in terms of acceleration. But as I dug deeper the actual reason was that you get a greater power transfer with a shorter chain stay. More power = faster acceleration.

The other main factor bandied around with shorter chain stays are that the handling is much better. This I can understand because your wheel moves forward and under your tush. Your weight would also shift over the back wheel making the bikes climb better. Handling however has more to do with the fact that you have shortened your overall wheel base so you can make tighter turns.

However as Newton taught us what goes up must come down. When heading down the hill you seem to loose the stability that a longer chain stay would give you. Here again its down to the wheelbase shortening. Think about it as a ship versus speed boat, the latter would corner like a king but try loading it up and you might start rolling about like a hyperactive kid on a rocking horse. For a more stable ride you would rather opt for longer ride as most touring bikes have or even the new Kona UTE.

Another thing to look out for is chain suck and mud clearance of the wheels. With chain suck the chain fails to disengage from the bottom teeth of a front chain-ring ; instead the teeth snag the chain and carry it up and around the rear circumference of the ring, winding it back onto itself, and jamming it between the chain-rings and chain-stay. Doesn't sound pleasant and luckily, touch wood, has happened to me.

So as you can see there are benefit's as well as drawbacks but looking around on the various manufacturers websites you will find that they normally range in the 17" ranch. I will check that up and then then get back on the chain stay length's of some manufacturers and post what they are.

Frame Design

So here is the basic setup of a bike frame with the labels as I'll use them in future posts. This is a dual suspension cross-country racer, more specifically the Santa Cruz Blur XC. Here we can see the main angles and the tube titles as you would normally see them on a companies website or browsing through a magazine. These vary for various rides and from company to company and I'll try to cover the significance of each of these area's and how the individually work to improve performance. I would also like to look into how length or angle changes affect the bike.

From what I've seen the main material's bikes are made from include Steel, Aluminum, Titanium and Carbon. The increase in price also goes up as I listed the materials. I will in future posts look into each and what the benefits and drawbacks of each is.

The list below will make up the other type of posts as I delve into how each of these affects the overall handling and performance of your machine:
  • Top Tube
  • Head Tube
  • Seat Tube
  • Chainstay
  • BB Height
  • Wheel Base
  • Standover Height
  • Seat Tube Angle
  • Head Tube Angle

Geometry of our trusty stead's

The next few posts or may be quite a few more I want to dedicate to the geometry of bicycle design and more appropriately the design of mountain bikes and how they have developed the way they have. My musing will be purely what I trawl off the Internet and slap together into some form of consensus of the issue. Manufacturers often have us believing one thing and then the riders another.

I have always been interested in the more technical aspects of the bike riding. So it seemed to me a great idea to start leading in a certain direction with regards to my blog. Coming from a mountain biking and more specifically a racing point of view I will try to concentrate on how the bike geometry of the bikes affects my racing rig compared to say a dirt jumper or downhill monster.

Geometry and how it affects our riding styles will also differ so nothing here could ever be set in stone. My wanderings through the information out there will only ever scratch the surface and I will not build on anything in any specific order but rather as my reading on the subjects extends so I will add to my posts.

Wednesday, November 21, 2007

Monster Carbon


I saw this bike a while ago floating around on the news ways and again I saw today the web-waves alight with the Arantix. Definitely taking carbon to a whole new level, the futuristic looking IsoTruss frame is straight out of a spiders lair. Not sure if I'd be willing to fork out the hefty 7G's that Delta 7 Sports is asking but then this is probably the the most advanced concept bike around. By the way that is frame price only, there's still needs to be changed left to put the engine under this bonet.

Build Recipe:
  • 1,672 feet of carbon fibre or five and a half football fields worth
  • Kevlar binding
  • 4 hours of baking
  • Carbon lugs to put it all together
Take a look at Jason Mitchell's
full rundown of the Isotruss Arantix, gives full Q&A as well as more details about the fully built bike offered by Delta 7
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